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  • alterego
    03-08 06:27 PM
    Very well written. I can tell you through my observations of living in this society for 35 years:

    1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)

    2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)

    3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.

    4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.

    5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).


    Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:

    There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.

    In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.

    In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas

    Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.


    Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.

    Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?

    This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.

    In defense of the EB2I argument thought UN, I could argue that the Horizontal spillover was right all along and it was EB3ROW that benefited since 2005 at the expense of EB2I + C.
    As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time, I believe that there are many Eb3ROW folks with PDs later than mine that have sailed through ahead of me! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
    In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have also affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
    This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.




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  • TheOmbudsman
    06-26 10:32 AM
    That's very typical. A while back an employment lawyer here in America told me that during negotiations with a picky employer that in case I felt left out at work, I should argue that the employer was being racist. Usually when people lose arguments in this debate, since one cannot win with reasoning, they start throwing the word "racist", "xenophobe", etc even if that is not the case at all.


    Its not about stereotyping...its about being fair....how can people who have come here illegally be allowed a path to naturalization while we have been waiting in line for so long? I came here because I had a certain idea about the makeup and composition and ideology of this country (liberty, equality, etc.) Making such a move will invariably change the demographic of the nation. Now that would be an intentional act. Not the natural pace at which migration/assimilation and diversification occurs. I have nothing against that.

    Would somebody call you racist if you say that you dont want to move to a ghetto because the standard of living is not good? NO. The fact that you dont want to move to a ghetto does not mean that you are prejudiced about the people who live there.

    The statement about corruption and inefficiencies is not slander but just a simple observation. If you dont agree with that, then most likely you would prefere to live in/immigrate to some Latin country instead of being here/coming to USA.

    I wont open the argument about the burden the illegal people will put on welfare etc. considering that they are typically from a income bracket that does not contribute much to taxes.

    It is very easy for people to use a cliched terms like racist/bigots etc when arguing for amnesty but if racism was the core argument against amnesty, one would not see the kind of backlash that one is seeing from the masses after CIR was introduced.

    All Americans think it is unfair to reward behaviour that is against the law. Not to mention the fact that they will have to take the burden of welfare of the legalized illegal people while they themselves dont know if there will be any welfare/social security benefits available when they are ready to retire.

    If you calling someone racist, please explain why you are saying so.

    Santosh




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  • virtual55
    05-02 09:55 PM
    http://cornyn.senate.gov/index.asp?f=record&lid=1&rid=237170




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  • gene77
    02-04 11:52 PM
    I landed in June 2006 in Toronto. If anybody needs information please feel free to ask.

    What documents, applications need to be filled out after we land in Canada; in-terms of applying for the Resident Card, Social Insurance Number etc. I don't even know what else needs to be filled out.

    Can we fill these applications on-line or must be fill them out only after we have landed physically in Canada?

    After landing, how long before we can come back to the USA for resuming our job?

    Thanks Lasantha.



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    11-18 08:42 AM
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  • dish
    12-10 12:21 PM
    Kennedy, McCain, 2 congressmen meet
    By Jerry Kammer
    COPLEY NEWS SERVICE

    December 9, 2006

    WASHINGTON � Two of the most liberal members of Congress met with two of their most conservative colleagues this week to revive immigration legislation that passed the Senate but was throttled by House Republican leaders who resisted its attempt to grant citizenship to illegal immigrants.


    Sen. Edward Kennedy
    �The plan is to bring the bill up in late winter,� said Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., a conservative stalwart who attended the meeting in the office of Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. The other participants were Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill.

    The strategy session Wednesday came amid speculation about how the dynamics of the immigration debate might change, if at all, when Democrats take control of the House and Senate next month.

    Flake said that Kennedy, who will be chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee's immigration subcommittee, wants to let the new Congress deal first with issues such as the war in Iraq and proposals to raise the minimum wage.

    �Then he'll be ready to go� with a new version of the bill that the Senate approved in April.


    Sen. John McCain
    Republicans ran the show in both houses of Congress then, and passionate divisions in their ranks over immigration policy became a dominant feature of the debate. Democrats, particularly in the House, were mostly content to sit back and enjoy the stalemate, even as they campaigned against the �do-nothing Republican Congress.�

    Now Democrats face the hazards of immigration politics.

    Immigration-law changes are conspicuously absent from the legislative agenda laid out by incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Observers here say it will be difficult for Pelosi, D-San Francisco, to honor her campaign-season pledge to work for a new comprehensive immigration law without splitting a caucus that includes freshly elected Democrats who vowed to secure the border and crack down on illegal immigration.

    The November midterm elections seemed to send mixed messages.


    Rep. Luis Gutierrez
    In a cliffhanger contest, Arizona Rep. J.D. Hayworth, a conservative Republican and strident foe of illegal immigration, was defeated by Democrat Harry Mitchell.

    Immigration advocates such as Ben Johnson of the Immigration Policy Center say Hayworth's defeat showed that immigration �did not turn out to be the firebrand issue that some people thought it could be.�

    But immigration restrictionists point out that Mitchell made getting tough on immigration the centerpiece of his campaign. They also say Mitchell cleverly used the issue against Hayworth, saying his Republican opponent was part of a political regime that wasn't competent enough to stop the hundreds of thousands of immigrants that sweep across Arizona's southern border each year.

    While Mitchell said he favored legal status for long-established immigrants, he insisted that immigration policy can be fixed only by �members of Congress who are willing to enforce the law, produce real immigration reform and stop playing politics with the issue.�


    Rep. Jeff Flake
    That enforcement-heavy approach is fine with immigration advocates as long as it is part of a package that provides permanent legal status to those who are beckoned across the border by agriculture, restaurant, construction, landscaping and janitorial jobs. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States is estimated to be at least 11 million.

    Immigrant-rights advocates, along with their allies at the National Chamber of Commerce and other business organizations, also support a proposal to provide hundreds of thousands of low-wage workers every year for employers who demonstrate that they are unable to find Americans to fill the slots.

    While McCain and Kennedy describe this as a �temporary-worker program,� the legislation they sponsored would put the workers on a path to citizenship.

    At a time of anxiety about the loss of good-paying manufacturing jobs, the McCain-Kennedy bill's efforts to import low-wage labor has drawn the anger of critics across the political spectrum. That is why Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates immigration restrictions, predicts Pelosi will be reluctant to get behind a proposal that could endanger the new Democratic majority.

    �Nancy Pelosi knows the Democrats are on probation for the next two years,� Krikorian said.

    He predicted that Pelosi would back less ambitious immigration change, such as a plan to provide legal status to undocumented students, rather than take on the explosive issue of mass legalization, which critics condemn as an amnesty that would spawn more illegal immigration.

    But Frank Sharry, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, which advocates for immigrant rights, argues that next year will be pivotal because of the presidential race that follows.

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    �I think that once we hit primary (election) season, controversial issues get a lot harder to do,� Sharry said. �Everybody I talk to says 2007 is the window of opportunity.�

    Pelosi was noncommittal this week on whether the House would take up immigration legislation. She sought to deflect some of the responsibility to the White House, suggesting that she expects President Bush to offer more specifics than his call to �match willing worker with willing employer.�

    �That's up to the president,� Pelosi said. �We want to work closely with him because it has to be comprehensive and bipartisan.�

    President Bush's political advisers, meanwhile, have acknowledged that revamping immigration law may be necessary to shore up sagging support for Republicans among Hispanics, the nation's fastest-growing ethnic group. Republicans received just 30 percent of the Hispanic vote this year, down from 44 percent in 2004.



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  • kalyan
    06-22 01:21 PM
    this is the height of Desi consulting companies i.e body shoppers, blood suckers.

    Guys, try to make a difference of moving from DESI hitch hock companies.

    Good luck




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  • gc_dream07
    07-19 09:37 PM
    I agree with move. I will participate. Please add EB1 also in the list. EB1 also should get the GC based on priority as the title of the thread says. Also remove the country quota. That will make it purely first come first serve basis. Everybody is treated equally irrespective of country or background.



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  • rongha_2000
    06-01 04:18 PM
    Called my state (MO) senator. The staffer listened very patiently and thanked me for raising the issue. I will be calling others soon.




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  • drirshad
    08-13 11:12 PM
    Cool calculation ..............

    On aug 9 th, USCIS nebraska center issued a total of 4063 receipt nos for 485, EAD, and APs.
    see the link http://.com/discuss/485eb/20866725/
    From this, if we assume ~4000/day, it ll take 20 working days to clear july 2nd filers (~80,000). My guess is by 31st Aug.



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  • kg318
    04-20 10:00 PM
    hi guyz,

    Here u go. The company name is 3i Infotech Inc. based in NJ.




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  • anzerraja
    07-20 11:11 AM
    Thanks Velan for your contribution. What exactly is your question ? Could you rephrase it please.

    It is safe giving money to core through IV. If yes, I will pledge $100. Please let me know the details.



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  • vbkris77
    05-01 03:30 PM
    If our interpretation is correct, how many of you are willing to sue CIS??




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  • sunny1000
    07-09 12:26 AM
    My analysis is minimally, if at all, dependent on India, China, ROW, ...

    Offcourse I don't know all laws. I will believe DOS/USCIS URLs that explain how VB dates are set.

    In general, it will be very useful to finds URLs that explain VB date setting and identify USCIS inconsistencies which they call LAW.


    See below link...It has some explanation of the cut-off dates. I don't know if that helps. Also it has been noted the AC21 was intsrumental in re-capturing 131K visas which kept the dates current until 2005. Amazing!! We should hire the lobbying firm which worked on AC21:D

    http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2712.html



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  • pyaradesi
    07-20 09:53 PM
    Mr. Paraya Desi

    I request you to mind your language. What you say displays a complete lack of understanding about the system

    It is not that they want the "most qualified" or "most brilliant" FIRST, and the rest later. As an example, if your toilet broke down and you have an urgent need to use it, would you welcome a beautiful girl knocking on your door, or a plumber. It is like this. It is a question of WHAT the COUNTRY needs, not who is made of gold

    Therefore dont think you are as an EB2 more (or less) entitled to anything, and correct the "faltu" ideas in your brain

    "Mind my language", clearly this must be a case of lost in translation. I am not entitled more or less, IV can close shop today, I did not come to the USA because there was EB1/2/3 or IV fighting my battles, enjoy your journey. Stop whining, there are millions of Americans suffering, don't tell me just because you know java you are better than them.
    We human beings have established a certain world order
    Why is tougher to get through EB1?
    Why does your boss make more money than you?
    Why does a certified plumber cost more?
    Why do men go after a pretty girl? shouldn't the ugly one get attention as much attention?
    Why Katrina Kaif is sought after not Nandita Das?
    Why does a person with a 770 credit score get lower interest?

    Why why why?

    Oh BTW, if your toilet broke down, do not panic, shut your door tight get some air freshner, and then you could consider the pretty girl.
    And if my toilet broke down, I will hire a plumber for an hour to fix it, I will not let the plumber move into a room in my house.
    What are you expecting? You want IV to get you salvation?

    Look, there is no compulsion, you don't like the system, it ain't going to upset anybody if you take the steamer to Bombay tonight.




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  • acecupid
    08-18 03:25 PM
    SunnySurya,

    I think you need to do a reality check on your leadership and mobilizing skills. The reason you cant find even 10 people who support your ideas should tell you something. You have to convince people who oppose your ideas in a logical way, so they see some sense in what you are trying to achieve. If you cannot convince people who oppose you with logical answers you wont find much support as a community from IV. I think people like eb3_nepa have every right to question your actions and intentions and if you cannot respond to healthy dialogue, dont expect people to support your cause. You have to give respect to gain respect.

    I personally support your cause about FIFO processing but you need to broaden it beyond EB2 to the entire EB community. It seems to me you have managed to gain such a notorious reputation that people are opposed to anything you have to say :) Its like a HR hiring manager saying to you, you are brilliant but you dont have the right attitude, so we dont need you.

    Good luck!



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  • snthampi
    02-03 11:27 AM
    [QUOTE=snthampi;2311346]

    :D
    Good Luck trying to explain reservation system to the USCIS to implement your plan! How many years would we have to wait - for the USCIS to learn the system and execute it :D
    Kidding too!

    Good one! You are right. It might take them 10 years to understand the system and then 10 years to implement it. By then many of us will be retired.




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  • neswar
    07-04 07:27 PM
    Problem is not only with the desi companies! If you work for the so called MNC, still you will be exploited. At least if you convince your desi employer that you will work for them for X number of years, they will be ready to help you. Sometimes they will go beyond the legal limits if the get return from you. Not true with MNCs. In the name of abiding the law, the will not help you. I have seen many people work MNCs, just at the verge of getting the GC, they got laid off! No need for me to tell what happened to his GC.

    So in my opinion the best way to get your GC is go thru the blood suckers! That is the price you have to pay to become citizen of this "Land of Opportunity".




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  • venky08
    12-18 06:59 PM
    They say that you become what you think most of the time. Do you really think good things about yourself? Try to develop a habit to see silver lining to anything in life...it will take you a long way not only with GC stuff but other issues which we have to deal with day to day.
    Cheers!




    jsb
    08-29 10:16 AM
    Latest update from USCIS - TSC still at 6/30

    Has anybody from those who filed at NSC on July 2 (I-140 at TSC), lately called USCIS? NSC has moved for receipting to 7/27, but TSC is still at 6/30




    gondalguru
    09-02 07:33 PM
    Received the EAD cards today in mail for me and my wife.

    Valid for 2 years.

    Applied at TSC with RD of July 7th.



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